Gungadin Luhar from India: Coalition Against Work and Civilization. Wonderful interview/conversation. The CAWC perspectives and efforts in the Indian context. Extremely informative; GL an excellent individual!
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March 20, 2011 Subject:
A comment on the interview on Anarchy Radio 09-07-2010 by John Zerzan
Mr. Gangadin Lohar,
Sir I had the privilege to listen to your Anarchy Radio broadcast on 09-07-2010 by John Zerzan. I have to admit that I couldn’t understand a good deal of that conversation mostly because of my limited understanding of the meaning of civilisation. For me civilisation is a social process to achieve development and organisation, what I came to understand is that this concept is against both development and organisation. As an engineering student getting ready for the market I first found the concept of Al Hilaal revolting rather appalling because it completely defies one thing that we all grew up listening that “Kheloge Kudoge Hoge Kharab, Paroge Likhoge Banoge Nawab”. So much stress has been put on us to become nawabs that it is almost criminal to think against this process. I would like to mention a story of Premchand here ‘Kafan’ here, I read it when I was in class 11th the main characters Madav and Ghisu were villains for me because of their shear indifference towards work but after listening to your conversation I have a greater acceptance for those characters.
Next thing that struck me was your comment on ‘time-saving’ equipments which just creates more time for work, I couldn’t agree more on this, countless time I found my friends about the ‘informal’ work atmosphere prevalent in USA where there is no dress code in offices you could arrive in your shorts and nobody cares or if you don’t shave or wear a tie or comb your hair or brush your teeth its okay till you show up for work. This kind of creates an illusion of freedom but actually its just creating more time for work. The amount of time you spend combing your hair or polishing your shoe your employer wants you to work in that time.
I would also like to share something I have been observing in my college when the fourth year students return for their last session after the placements. All these students used to be together in the same batch since they arrived in the college but after the placements a new kind of group dynamics is fairly easy to observe, the Infosys walas hangout in one group the lower package group such as BSNL in other and those who didn’t get any job in another. It is very weird to see such a class divide among friends even before they leave the college. After seeing this, your view of a non-hierarchical and nomadic society makes lot of sense.
I have a lot to write about this conversation but that would unnecessarily lengthen this letter I would like to close by saying:
I have listened your interview over and over again and every time I hear it, it opens a whole new dimension. Thank you for that.
Reviewer:gangadin lohar -
February 19, 2011 Subject:
Corrigendum and Basics
At 21:10 correct word is Graam.ni not Graami.n i.e. Chieftain of a Graama. Sorry ! I misspoke. Graama meant at that time a unit of nomadic caravan not a rural settlement-- as it is primarily understood today. Rural settlements, it is self-evident, emerged in the later phase after the introduction of agriculture in the river valleys. But not without immense resistance.
*About Al Hilaal
* At the centre of the term hilaal is the infinitive: hilaanaa . In many South Asian languages it means to move, to shake something. This name is based on a belief about Santhals from eastern India.Early morning before going to work at the field of moneylender or landlord, s/he shakes haandi with her toe. If the haandi refuses to move Santhal also refuses to move. So long there is rice in the haandi, Santhal shall not move to work. So we are.
* Primary aim of dominating social cultural norms, civilization, state, market and revolution is to bring two poles of work and worker together. If society and state have to function normally, then they have to be joined together. However, like similar magnetic poles, they get away from each other more easily than coming together.
*Singing, dancing, playing, hospitality are simple human activities. As soon as these activities turn into source of our livelihood, they become work. Instead of playing a game it becomes our career. It becomes potentially a part of Sports Industry. Singing and dancing become Entertainment Industry. Hospitality becomes Hospitality Management. History of Civilization is the history of turning more and more human activities into work (-flows).
* As soon as you start outdoing your potential competitor in the labour market you turn into the enemy of worker from your own generation. I have to outcompete the pre-existing and potential competitors so I turn into enemy of older and coming generations. Above all, I have to turn into my own enemy to able to work for lesser wages more productively in lesser time . “Conquer yourself, if you want to conquer the world.”
* Only if you turn into your enemy, enemy of your contemporaries, of earlier generations and of coming generations you will be able to survive. Anti-Being becomes the precondition of our Being.
*Given the first opportunity 99% of people working shall drop their job for something other than work.
* When it is about celebrating festivals and communal activities, like Santhals, our energy knows no bounds. At the end of the day what elites called civilization was work for us. We are against all work-pyramids like countries, companies, families and identities. We are for self-determined human activities which is not possible without abolition of our existence as wage-workers or serfs. We are for non-hijackable, non-hierarchical and coercion-free communities. Hence the name Coalition Against Work, Representation and Civilization in South Asia: Al Hilaal (CAWRC).
gangadin lohar, vilas sukhdeve, golamar,anada, alakananda, chaudhary and ranjan anand
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